{"id":6184,"date":"2018-05-03T08:00:57","date_gmt":"2018-05-03T12:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/?p=6184"},"modified":"2019-06-11T14:29:25","modified_gmt":"2019-06-11T18:29:25","slug":"college-completion-rates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/college-completion-rates\/","title":{"rendered":"A Second and Third Thought on College Completion Rates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Toward the end of April, college completion rates for part-time students was something of a trending topic. First, an <a href=\"https:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/australia-news\/2018\/apr\/30\/will-you-drop-out-of-university-report-reveals-australian-students-at-risk\">Australian study by the Grattan Institute<\/a> came out which argued that colleges should inform their students how likely they are to drop out. They found that part-time students are at the greatest risk of doing so. Taking half the normal load, for Aussie learners, leads to about a 50\/50 drop out rate. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Here in the U.S., some colleges are happy to clear that bar for any group of students. Coincidentally, new U.S. data has also recently emerged, saying that American part-time students are much more likely to drop out than their full-time peers. As Michael Itzkowitz <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thirdway.org\/memo\/new-data-further-cements-completion-crisis-in-higher-education\">writes in Third Way<\/a>, \u201cAn analysis of this data finds that when including students who have transferred into an institution in addition to those enrolled as part-time, the federal graduation rate actually\u00a0<i>decreases<\/i>, further illustrating the reality that we have a college completion crisis in the United States.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-lang=\"en\">\n<p dir=\"ltr\" lang=\"en\">New federal data show that out of the more than 1.1 million part-time students who entered an institution of <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/hashtag\/highered?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">#highered<\/a> in 2008, only 285,000\u2014or about 24%\u2014had earned an award or degree from that institution eight years later.<\/p>\n<p>More here &#x1f449; <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/QLR5fnSL8L\">https:\/\/t.co\/QLR5fnSL8L<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/GhVa6SpWqk\">pic.twitter.com\/GhVa6SpWqk<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Michael Itzkowitz (@mikeitzkowitz) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/mikeitzkowitz\/status\/991032510179172353?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 30, 2018<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Crisis is a strong word.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>A Different Take on College Completion Rates<\/h1>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">It made me think of another form of education that suffers from <a href=\"https:\/\/edscoop.com\/massive-open-online-courses-move-to-improve-completion-rates\"><span class=\"s2\">abysmal<\/span><\/a> completion rates: MOOCs. And that made me think of a conversation I <a href=\"https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/philanthropy-university\/\">recently had<\/a> with Connor Diemand-Yauman, CEO of Philanthropy University. The company seeks to aid in capacity building in the global south. Part of their work lies in creating podcast-based MOOCs that can be accessed more easily by people who don\u2019t have reliable or steady access to the internet. Diemand-Yauman said that he hardly expects everyone who uses these resources to make it through to completion. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">\u201cFocusing on completion rates in MOOCs is like focusing on completion rates for newspapers,\u201d he said. \u201cI personally don\u2019t know a lot of people who read the newspaper end-to-end, but that doesn\u2019t mean that everyone else is a failure. Some people are only interested in the business section; others just want the comics. Are these readers failures at newspaper reading? Of course not.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">How many people point to just one class or one professor in college that completely changed their life? I certainly fall into that category.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>A Culture of Shame<\/h1>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">And for those who drop out, there\u2019s a real culture of shame they need to deal with. \u201cI felt incredibly guilty about dropping out,\u201d culinary blogger Abby Sharp <a href=\"https:\/\/globalnews.ca\/news\/3727784\/canadians-didnt-finish-university-college\/\">told Global News<\/a>, a Canadian publication. \u201cI was the star student. I had a full scholarship to a very difficult program. Every professor I ever knew expected me to get my PhD and make them proud. I felt like a total failure, but in retrospect, it was the absolute best decision I ever made.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">As a final thought, college completion rates are a somewhat bald metric. They measure whether or not someone was able to get a degree. The data point has nothing to do with quality.<\/span><\/p>\n<h1>Completion \u2260 Quality<\/h1>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">In 2012, The Chronicle of Higher Education asked a number of administrators <a href=\"https:\/\/www.chronicle.com\/article\/Do-College-Completion-Rates\/131029\"><span class=\"s3\">to weigh in<\/span><\/a> on the issue of college completion rates. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-6186 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"college completion rates\" width=\"336\" height=\"224\" srcset=\"https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept-223x148.jpg 223w, https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept-360x241.jpg 360w, https:\/\/news.elearninginside.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/top-view-of-graduation-mortarboard-and-diploma-on-yellow-background-education-concept.jpg 1254w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 336px) 100vw, 336px\" \/>\u201cA focus on &#8220;completion&#8221; will not be enough to help us increase our competitiveness, prepare our students to be responsible citizens, and protect and enhance our nation&#8217;s role in the world,\u201d said Judith Ramaley, president of Winona State College. \u201cWe must first figure out\u00a0<i>why<\/i>\u00a0we are failing so many students, and then we must do something about it. Only then will the completion rates go up.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p3\"><span class=\"s1\">Arthur Hauptman, a policy consultant in higher education, distinguished between \u2018completion\u2019 and \u2018attainment.\u2019 \u201cIn some other important ways,\u201d he says, \u201cthe attainment and completion debate in this country has taken some wrong turns over the past five years. One such misdirection is the assumption that higher completion rates automatically result in higher attainment rates. To understand the problem here, we need to recognize that completion and attainment rates do not measure the same thing. Completion rates are the percentage of students who finish the program they began, while attainment rates measure the share of the adult population who hold a degree.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p5\"><span class=\"s1\">\u201cTraditionally the United States has had high rates of bachelor&#8217;s-degree attainment compared to some other countries. But this ranking was not achieved by having high completion rates. Indeed, for a long time we have had comparatively mediocre completion rates because we expend more effort to increase access than many other countries that have more elitist systems of higher education. So the traditional U.S. leadership in bachelor&#8217;s-degree attainment has been a function of enrolling lots of students who, even with modest completion rates, produce very high rates of bachelor&#8217;s-degree attainment. The stimulus for the national debate we are having is that we now rank much lower on all measures of educational attainment.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Toward the end of April, college completion rates for part-time students was something of a trending topic. First, an Australian study by the Grattan Institute came out which argued that colleges should inform their students how likely they are to drop out. 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